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It’s interesting to see that the book leaves it kind of ambiguous as well, but the first thing we learned in our adaptation class is that you owe nothing to your source. Shane refrains from fighting and is as nice as possible, but Chris is determined to egg him on. After all, you attack me personally, and you describe one of the most pervasive debates in cinematic history as a, “mindless question.” Even though your only real argument is one that has been made (more than once) before, I’ll respond. Buys "Fifth Estate, "Killer Elite: The Cult of the Gunfighter, 1950–1953", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shane_(film)&oldid=982072417, Films whose cinematographer won the Best Cinematography Academy Award, United States National Film Registry films, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing Japanese-language text, Articles with unsourced statements from March 2018, Articles with unsourced statements from March 2020, Wikipedia articles with SUDOC identifiers, Wikipedia articles with WorldCat-VIAF identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, Douglas Spencer as Axel 'Swede' Shipstead, This page was last edited on 6 October 2020, at 00:56. 2) You’ve made my point for me on this one: “they never mention anything about him being seriously hurt or dying.” Exactly. It’s also refreshing to see that you clearly acknowledge the film as beautiful regardless of Shane’s survival or death, as you refuse to stake the value of the picture on one ending or another. Shane strokes Joey’s head with his left hand and shows no pain whatsoever. I’ve always enjoyed the film, not only because it’s a good movie, but because it spurs heated debate about the end of the film. kh1616. He quotes Sam Peckinpah: "When Jack Palance shot Elisha Cook Jr. in Shane, things started to change. Then, the teasing stops. Marian forgives Shane, but Joey (Jr.) yells "I hate you!" Shane and Joe are worried that Shane's fight with Chris will only motivate Fletcher into instigating more fights. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. 2) Shane is hurt in his side, but doesn’t show pain, so it can’t be fatal. Not as if he was even in a fight, shot or going to die any time soon. And my point of view is one backed by a 4 year film degree with more than one examination of Shane. It's not real complicated, guys. That’s not arbitrary – he was almost certainly directed to do that. If they truly didn’t mean to be a jerk, they wouldn’t have said anything in the first place. If this film were released today, I would be inclined to agree with you. I grew up watching westerns and a dead guy (or gal) always fell off their horse, unless practically wrapped around it. He is holding the reins up off the horse. Maybe you should give us a reason rather than your resume. I just watched Shane last night for the first time and I must have missed that scene so its hard for me to comment on it. Shane is right on the mark, but he is too late. One vintage structure that appeared briefly in the film, the Ernie Wright Cabin (now popularly referred to by locals as the "Shane Cabin") still stands, but is steadily deteriorating due to its classification as "ruins" by the National Park Service. Pale Rider was a poor choice for you to pick as evidence, however. Modern films rarely have the same subtleties and subtext that films from this era had. Having said that I don’t mean to imply that Shane would not soon die. I absolutely could be wrong, and through debate we all gain a greater understanding of the film. As the film ends, Shane's farewell words to Joey are recited, verbatim, at the title character's grave.[27]. Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how people can get so animated over a movie. Joe tells him not to and protests that it is not Shane's business. Shane is a 1953 American Western film from Paramount Pictures,[4][5] noted for its landscape cinematography, editing, performances, and contributions to the genre. If you watch Pale Rider there is NO indication that Clint/Shane dies at the end of that movie either. I thought Shane went on to become a dentist in Passaic, New Jersey. Shane, he wrote, "... is a great movie and can hold its own with any film, whether it's a Western or not. It is marvelous. The next day Joe asks Shane to stay again because it is raining. But movies will depart from reality where it’s convenient. Uh, he rode away, the film finished running through the projector, I went out to eat. They grunt and groan as they push the stump, all the while shooting each other knowing glances.”. Share. The first time I saw this type of ending and realized how it made me feel, was while watching the VW commercial Big Day. Did you guys miss the last shots of the movie? Let me be blunt: You are not watching this film correctly. Geez! Look at Apocalypse Now. As our membership continues to grow we look forward to reading your stories and learning from your experiences. Most importantly, as Mr. Brown has emphasized, there are no REAL answer to this. When you start off your comment with “respectfully,” I know you don’t mean it. Maybe everyone who doesn’t see the homo-eroticism just isn’t watching the same movie that I am, because in Shane it’s glaringly obvious. [16] Stevens later noted that the change actually made Wilson's entrance more dramatic and menacing. Contact me | Privacy policy | Join the mailing list | Links. News of the confrontation spreads around town, and Joe and Shane become sort of a laughing stock. Continuity mistake: During the fight between Shane and Chris in the bar, the amount of blood on Chris' face changes between shots. : "Your times are past. Things don’t have to be real, they just have to look real enough (unless you’re Werner Herzog, in which case the boat is actually going over the mountain for real). You know, Sergio, some of the best endings are open ones because they satisfy everyone. They grunt and groan as they push the stump, all the while shooting each other knowing glances. Shane reacts strongly against this and tells Joe he is going into town to talk to Fletcher. But bear in mind that this is my forum and I’m arguing my position from my point of view. Check out the mistake & trivia books, on Kindle and in paperback. Its on Netflix I take it you don't. Your film-theory class seems a rather insipid “study.”. As he rides over the last hill, his left arm is stiff and at his side. Case closed, next! Shane and Joe get into an argument about who should be the one to go. He is dressed differently from the other men, wearing a black hat, boots, and a belt. One Saturday the entire family takes a trip into town to get supplies and to talk to Bob's teacher. I enjoyed that scene. All rights reserved. During Torrey's funeral, Lewis's home is set on fire by Ryker's men but saved from ruin by the homesteaders who decide they should stand up to the cattle baron. Fully functional left arm or wounded and painful left side? Really? Well, the fight wasn’t all that physically demanding, so I disagree. The app mimics live spelling bees and give Shane English School students worldwide another way to practice vocabulary and spelling. Design and text © 1996 - 2020 Jon Sandys. Either way, you get to believe the ending you want and are happy with how the story ends. I’m of the belief that he does die at the end. [15] A careful review of Shane's gun skill demonstration to Joey shows Alan Ladd firing with his eyes closed. Shane was Arthur's first cinematic role in five years, and her last, at the age of 50—though she later appeared in theater, and a short-lived television series. If he’s supernatural, then what he’s just done isn’t very impressive (especially since he got shot doing it). I will admit that I haven’t seen the film “Shane” in many years, so I don’t recall every nuance, but … uhh, Shane the film is “homo erotic”?? It’s not the story that’s gay, but the way the story is told. Gawd. 1) I haven’t given any reasons for why Shane is dead. Shane Poems . There is no suggestion, indication, inference, or hint that Shane dies in the end. “Homo erotic”? It is a wonderful movie and the end cound’nt be better. that kid just wanted his hero to come back, and besides, wouldn’t you feel like slumpin’ a bit if you had just been through an ass whippin’ fight and got shoosted in the side, and then rode off to the great wide open without your supper? Calloway, no longer loyal to Ryker, warns Shane of the double-cross. oh yeah..all you homoerotics out there..go sit on a nice sharp stump…. Consider upgrading your membership for less than a box of bullets! I think the idea that the director left it ambiguous is a great idea. That’s like saying, “I don’t mean to be a jerk, but…” Anyone who says that knows they’re about to be a jerk. Unlock additional features, and fewer ads while browsing. Using a newly cut aperture plate in the movie projector, as well as a wider-angle lens, the film was exhibited in first-run venues at an aspect ratio of 1.66:1. Shane tries to warn Joe (Sr.), along with his wife, and eventually is forced to fight with Joe and knocks him out cold. Bob's father Joe invites Shane to stay. Infuriated by this event, Rufe Ryker directs his brother, Morgan, to ride to Joe's homestead and tell him to meet Ryker to talk things over 'reasonably' at the saloon. The narrator of the book, Bob Starrett notices the stranger and reacts to him with curiosity and awe. How? What a way to make everyone happy! option 3 ! Cut back to the long shot and Shane has slumped over a bit. What are you talking about, Kris, I know you’ve seen Shane! The two fight, with Shane knocking Starrett unconscious. Come for the info, stay and make some friends.. We work hard to bring the best Glock Forum! As for why I want to find evidence that George Stevens is portraying Shane as dead at the end of the film… Because it’s there.

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