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doctor sleep vs the shining

Scare-for-scare, there is more content in Doctor Sleep. He doesn't bring out the first "ghost" in The Shining until about page one-fifty. It's on my list either way, just want to know if the two stories intertwine that much. We later hear that Danny told his mother a woman attempted to strangle him inside the room, and when Jack goes to investigate, he sees a dead woman's ghost. At their first face-to-face meeting, he delivers a banal explanation of his gifts that make an attunement to an ambient elemental energy in the air into something closer to superpowers. The genuflections to Kubrick’s work create a strange dissonance, given that Flanagan states early and emphatically that he wants Doctor Sleep to stand on its own. Doctor Sleep is a different type of horror than The Shining, but it's still a frightful and disturbing film. People who might have read/ are reading Doctor Sleep, should I find The Shining and read it first? I would concur. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Danny gets back on the straight and narrow when he receives a psychic distress call from young Abra (newcomer Kyliegh Curran), another child with “the shine,” the same ESP powers Danny has. Everything else is our recreation. But King has spent decades knocking The Shining for taking liberties with his source text. Something about the math on that doesn’t look right, as if some tabulation error switched the totals around. Don't watch the movie until you finish both of these books. This is a moderated subreddit. I recently read The Shining and I'm about 1/3 through Doctor Sleep. Here's another scene where Flanagan has decided to alter the framing of The Shining for Doctor Sleep, this time keeping us at a safe difference from the Overlook Hotel's nightmarish bathroom. There are a lot of reference in Doctor Sleep that draw from the original book. Related: The Shining Questions We’ve Waited Over 30 Years For Doctor Sleep To Answer. Doctor Sleep Vs The Shining! Doctor Sleep is recreating a number of iconic sequences from Stanley Kubrick's The Shining, although they're not totally identical to the original. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. And one final point: the King of today is much improved from the King of thirty years ago. Danny Torrance encountering the twins in a corridor of the Overlook Hotel is among the many creepy images that Kubrick so brilliantly conjured up in The Shining, and one where you can instantly see just how different Doctor Sleep's version of this scene is. As a sequel, it's great. Flanagan hasn’t entirely bungled Doctor Sleep. It's grimy, unpleasant, and, worryingly for Danny, the 'EXIT' sign is unlit and less visible. But even if the Shining echoes are defensible, they don’t make for a more enjoyable or interesting movie. But only once, towards the very end, do we see it in The Shining's original fashion, as written on the door in red by Danny himself. Also, the showdown has to be one of the biggest letdowns of all of his novels. Related: Every Stephen King Movie Ranked, From Worst To Best. The color of the wood is darker in the new film too, which might not be as trivial as it sounds. The film's - and one of the cinema's - most famous scenes, it finds Jack Nicholson's Jack Torrance smashing down the door with an ax, announcing his arrival with the oft-quoted "Here's Johnny!". Not even a little bit. Flanagan’s target audience appears to be the easily lost, judging by the diligence with which he explains every plot point and symbol to within an inch of its life. Boring, dragging and uninspired, it often reads like a fantasy novel and where "Shining" had me terrified, this one did not scare me once. Here we have Room 237, the infamous hotel room that Danny Torrance is warned to stay out of. I've gathered from the description of Doctor Sleep it's kind of a sequel. At 144 minutes, Stanley Kubrick’s film version of Stephen King’s 1977 horror classic The Shining clocks in at nine minutes shorter than Doctor Sleep, Mike Flanagan’s new film interpretation of King’s 2013 sequel. Press J to jump to the feed. While doing that, Dan is also forced to confront the demons of his past. The tricycle is new as well, since it's a lighter blue in the original version, the lighting has been changed, and the scene has been reshot with a different actor in the role of Danny, which is most noticeable in the hair. But Flanagan’s paltry bag of tricks errs on the side of the derivative. While the documentary Room 237 examined the wildly varied readings of Kubrick’s Shining and the subcultures that’s sprung up around it, Flanagan’s sister piece ensures that its underlying meaning is as close to the surface as the shallow grave discovered in the second act. Through means straightforward and blunt, he’s turned a surreal simulation of succumbing to insanity into a plainly stated reminder to always be true to yourself. They’re largely an excuse to borrow from the legacy and mastery of a far superior film. However, while it's sticking to the narrative of the book (and The Shining novel too), Flanagan is also keeping this in the same cinematic universe as Kubrick's film. Although the film is based upon Stephen King's book of the same name, which serves as a follow-up to his novel and ignores Kubrick's film (which King famously wasn't happy with), director Mike Flanagan (The Haunting of Hill House) is making this … King brings out the first "ghost" in Doctor Sleep within five pages. The color is different here as well. Here's my detailed review on Amazon. I'd read The Shining first anyway- I did love Doctor Sleep, but The Shining is brilliant. In terms of The Shining, while there are numerous pieces of iconography from the film, this is the big one. The way it's shot, with Dan slightly removed from the hole, does allow us to see a bit more of it, and there's a bit more of the door missing to the left, but otherwise, it appears to be more or less right. Just finished mine the other day and loved it. With Ewan McGregor, Rebecca Ferguson, Kyliegh Curran, Cliff Curtis. Now that I've finished both, I agree 100%. "REDRUM" appears a couple of times in Doctor Sleep's trailers: first in the mirror when Danny is washing his face, and then we see him sliding towards a wall with it written on, although this time flipped for its true meaning. After the trailer's premiere, Flanagan spoke at a Q&A about painstakingly bringing The Shining into Doctor Sleep. I just read The Shining (ok, listened to it on an audiobook because I'm lazy and enjoy books more that way these days) for the first time because I saw an article announcing the new book. He hated the film so much that in 2012, he publicly bragged about winning by outliving Kubrick. Her abilities have near-limitless untapped potential, but she’s still summoned him as the last line of defense against the nefarious Rose the Hat (Rebecca Ferguson, dressed up like Amy Sherman-Palladino) and her cult, The True Knot. If you're looking for help with a personal book recommendation, consult our Weekly Recommendation Thread, Suggested Reading page, or ask in r/suggestmeabook. OP can read it as a standalone book but I think people that have read The Shining will appreciate much, much more. Related: What To Expect From The Haunting Of Bly Manor. Mike Flanagan's Doctor Sleep is recreating parts of Stanley Kubrick's classic horror movie The Shining, but just how does the sequel compare? Of course, when he sees the door ajar, his curiosity overcomes him. For one, Doctor Sleep feels several small eternities longer than The Shining. Like sleep with the lights on kind of scared. He’s repressing a lot of trauma, a concept represented by a repeated shot of boxes locked up tight in his mind, and then an explanation that these boxes are how he keeps his personal demons at bay, for anyone in the audience in need of clarification. The 'M' looks a little wider, and the second 'R' appears to kick out a little more, but the differences are almost negligible. That's until he meets Abra, a young girl with whom he shares an ability known as "the shining", and the pair team up to fight an evil group called The True Knot, who feed off the power possessed by people like Dan and Rose. In my opinion its connection to "The Shining" is the only reason to give "Doctor Sleep" a try. Well said. 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Kubrick’s vision still provokes shivers because it’s so unexplained and unknowable: the sudden snap zoom to the man receiving oral sex from a masked figure in an animal costume remains a shocking, baffling question mark after all these years.

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